Dance With Wife In Islam ?

What is the status of dance with wife in islam.

dance with wife in public? or in wat sense? pls elaborate your question...

Islam is a religion of moderation and does not approve of either extremism or negligence. It does not prevent people from having entertainment; however, it provides the rules that regulate this entertainment. At the same time, Islam does not tolerate any kind of entertainment that contains haram (unlawful) or even leads to haram behavior.

yadein>>>>>>>>>>> dis threat doesnt make any sense ?

if he's trying to make fun of islam...

oh no he cant......

cmon get a life
yesterday u wer asking bout sum islamic stuff
n nw yr behaving like u dun even know bout islam
hell !!

mein ne kya kiya? why u shouting at me for? :(

mein ne kya kiya? why u shouting at me for? :(
lol tumhe nai bol rahi hoon

Lolz....haha.....

lol ghussa kioun ho rahi ho - bas simple question pooch raha hai - shayad usko nahi patah ho is kay baray mein heh - zaroori thori hai kay sab info hi ho islam pe.

arrey phir kese muslims hain per chalo ap bol rahi ho to mein chup ho jati hoo :p

I know what you mean per kabhi kabhi koi baatein nahi patah hoti hai na. Tu jabh tak poocho nahi tu patah kesay ho gaaaaaaa

moti =p

moti ouchhhh lol
mujhe aj kisi ne kaha tha k fan kholne se pehle saman ko pakar lena warna ur jaye gi hehe

wese ... ap bahut suchi batein kerti hain hehe kaha se seekha :p

What is the status of dance with wife in islam.
you will get shot woooooooo! watch out!!:fear:

:8: this is 1 useless topic

Nazok Pari, be careful please.

Nightmare, I'm sure she didn't mean it offensively.

Wow! chill out me sorry
im a muslim too, was just jookkiinnng!!:fear:
man!

its ok we forgive u! and religion is not a joke

I never said that either, I'm just saying people should loosen up a bit.

Why is it a sensitive topic? I mean you know what your religion is about, you know what's right and wrong. You know Allah(swt) and Prophet Mohammed(pbuh).
Let others talk:D

Okey, I'm sorry:)
How do you see it thn?

I'll be sure to read it:)

Fabulous

if sum1 was making a joke on/abt sum1 close 2 me..i wudnt jus sit and think "let them tlk" i know wat they're really like...id speak my mind

aww thanx nighty! thats really flattering! :o *blush*

ok so i had a long chat with pari over msn, she said ppl here (on bwh) have no clue wat religion is and she has agreed to teach us about Islam.

So here you go pari, tell us what Islam is.

P.S: Spare us the lecture :rolleyes:

I'll be responding to your every post and comment concerning Islam and if the necessity arises i'll present you my questions.

Seems like pari is afraid to reply after I had pretty much destroyed all her invalid n baseless arguments concerning desis

cuz i debate with facts and pari with fiction.....

Yeah keep talking dude, me here.
Ask whatever you want to know and i will give you an answer but i aint got time to explain ever detail to you, go and ask a Mullah in that case.
You claim with words Fraudzz, but i say it with prove

Yeah keep talking dude, me here.
Ask whatever you want to know and i will give you an answer but i aint got time to explain ever detail to you, go and ask a Mullah in that case.
You claim with words Fraudzz, but i say it with prove

First, to sound pompous, you told me to speak english on msn while i was infact speaking english.....

Now answer me!

1) Is listening to music halal or haram is Islam?
2) Having a gf/gf allowed or prohibited?

Please prove and back your statements with references from Holy Quran and Hadith, not from what your local mullahs have been feeding down your throat.

moti ouchhhh lol
mujhe aj kisi ne kaha tha k fan kholne se pehle saman ko pakar lena warna ur jaye gi hehe

wese ... ap bahut suchi batein kerti hain hehe kaha se seekha :p

lol mera mazaq ora rahe ho :p

First, to sound pompous, you told me to speak english on msn while i was infact speaking english.....

Now answer me!

1) Is listening to music halal or haram is Islam?
2) Having a gf/gf allowed or prohibited?

Please prove and back your statements with references from Holy Quran and Hadith, not from what your local mullahs have been feeding down your throat.
Both questions have a no as answer although
both have opinions with different views from aswell as the mullahs
as..let's say ''the other muslim''.
Concerning music some say that it is allowed and that you can not forbid what God has not forbidden. Music is allowed unless it makes you do deeds that are sinfull, such as using drugs, sex(sorry i can't censor this word
for you guys this time lol) etc. They say everything we do has music to it and that God has provided us with it Himself. The music of love, the rythm your heart beats to for that ONE special(:sleepy:) person, the
way your tears sing your hearts stories BECAUSE of that one
special person lol.
And yet others say listening to music itself is a sinfull deed
and it should not be done(yet we do it). But yeah like mentioned
already i can't recite the Quran for you, because i'm neither a
Mullah or(yes unfortunately) read the Quran occasionally so that
i remember everything JUST INCASE someone, sometime decides to asks me
about it.
Boyfriend/girlfriend/ relationships before marriege arn't allowed
either, because this leads to not just ghunna but zina. Which is even worse than just a sinfull deed. Some use having to get to know the person
a bit before you marry him/her as an excuse so you don't make the mistake of marrying the wrong person. But the ones who do have these
relationships are also the ones who end up unhappy and with an arranged marriege afterall.
Just because i may preach what i do not practice myself, but why accuse me of something you do yourself too? It doesn't
mean i shouldn't preach it and try prefenting my sisters and
brothers from not making the same mistakes, but the dessicion at the end is still upto them, not me.
Times are changing but that doesn't mean our religion should change,
it doesnt mean we should adjust our religion to this change and let it loose its meaning, its purity etc, etc. It is not the religion, but the people who have to change with time and it's upto you to decide what kind of changes you are willing to make. What kind of life you want to live and what kind of changes are needed in order to live that life. Do whatever clears your conscience and let others make that dessicion for themselves. What kind of dessicion you have made isn't anybodys business cause at the Day of Judgement everyone who has done an atom's weight of good shall see it and everyone who has done an atom's weight of evil shall see it. (Surah Al-zalzalah) You and
only you will be held responsible for the deeds you carry in your
hands on that day and nobody else.
God is pardonning, He loves to pardon, so please pardon us God.
May God forgive each and one of us for our sins, clear our hearts
and bring us closer to Him everyday.

*Smartass comments are not welcome, ty in advance, but feedback..yh*
:)

Pari,

after almost 3 days? if THATS the quality of your comeback, i must say, u can easily win over children that throw a fit and tantrum, and after wetting their garments, run to parents....


Both questions have a no as answer although
both have opinions with different views from aswell as the mullahs
as..let's say ''the other muslim''.
"the other muslim"? what sect do u belong to then?

Concerning music some say that it is allowed and that you can not forbid what God has not forbidden. Music is allowed unless it makes you do deeds that are sinfull, such as using drugs, sex(sorry i can't censor this word for you guys this time lol) etc.
your this statement does'nt make any sense to me. where are the sources?
Music is forbidden. Allah has forbidden it. The only thing allowed is singing, as long as it is not against the teachings of Islam and within the bounds of modesty. Read Madhab-e-Faruq Azaam, and Izalatul Khifa, these are compilations by Shah Wali Allah rahmatullahi 'Alayh. And read the punishments Khulaafa-e-rashideen used to give for those who were engaged in music.

They say everything we do has music to it and that God has provided us with it Himself. The music of love, the rythm your heart beats to for that ONE special(:sleepy:) person, the way your tears sing your hearts stories BECAUSE of that one special person lol.
I respect the googling but sources?
Everything we do has music in it? A little elaboration would be great. God has even provided us with alcohol, Quran did not come down in one day or hour. It came down in pieces and alcohol wasn't haraam until later on.
Islam prohibits music and therefore music is haram (unlawful). Its direct effect is exciting and leading people away from the right path, (the path of Allah SWT). It spoils morality and causes addiction. It is mentioned in the Holy Quran under “Lahwal Hadith” (idle talk):

“And among the people is the one who buys idle talk in order to lead (people) astray from the path of Allah without knowledge, holding it in mockery; for such there will be a humiliating punishment. (31:6)”.
Scholars say that when someone says something is permissible when Allah and his Messenger (pbuh) have clearly said that its not, then that person is outside the fold of Islam.
The Prophet of God (pbuh) said: "There will be [at some future time] people from my Ummah who will seek to make lawful fornication, the wearing of silk, wine drinking and the use of musical instruments. Some people will stay at the side of the mountain and when their shepherd comes in the evening to ask them for his needs, they will say: 'Return to us tomorrow'. Then Allah will destroy them during the night by causing the mountain to fall upon them, while He changes others into apes and swine. They will remain in such a state until the Day of Resurrection." (Al-Bukhari)
Allah doesn’t just forbid something just for the sake of it there’s wisdom behind all his orders, sometimes the reasons are obvious and sometimes we just don’t know why he forbid something because we have very limited knowledge but Allah is the All-Knowing.

And yet others say listening to music itself is a sinfull deed and it should not be done(yet we do it). But yeah like mentioned
already i can't recite the Quran for you, because i'm neither a
Mullah or(yes unfortunately) read the Quran occasionally so that
i remember everything JUST INCASE someone, sometime decides to asks me
about it.
other say this, others say that, blah blah, such "others" think that whatever they are saying is very authentic and everyone should say yes to it, but dear this is not the case. Tell me of a maulana or an aalim who says listening to music is allowed. Ullemas have dedicated their lives to studying the Quran and Sunnah, they know much better than your "others" and me. ALLAH (swt) mentions in the Quran one of the qualities of a Mo'min to be that he does "Zikr" (praises Allah) while he is walking, siting or lying on comfortable beds. BUT this becomes very difficult for a person who frequently listens to music because he would be most of the times either Listening or murmuring his "Latest" favourite song instead of doing "Zikr" (While traveling in a car, using computer, .....etc.) In a Hadith the prophet (saw) said," Do as much Zikr that people start thinking of you to be crazy".Which is not possible if we frequently listen to Music. In another Hadith the Prophet (saw) said," If a person remembers Allah in his Heart, Allah also remembers him, if he remembers Allah in a crowd, Allah remembers him in the company of Angels", Very little of this becomes possible for an addict of music.
Its like ur comparing apples n oranges together. keep them seperate!
(dont forget apple is false fruit too).


Boyfriend/girlfriend/ relationships before marriege arn't allowed either, because this leads to not just ghunna but zina. Which is even worse than just a sinfull deed. Some use having to get to know the person a bit before you marry him/her as an excuse so you don't make the mistake of marrying the wrong person. But the ones who do have these
relationships are also the ones who end up unhappy and with an arranged marriege afterall.
i thought u said u have a bf! lol
neva mind!
as for me, even if I go ahead and do it I still have respect for the reasons Islam may have forbidden it. If you believe that you've submitted to Allah (swt), and that you wish to follow the Prophet (saws) and the righteous believers then bf/gf is definitely not allowed. Think about it please.
P.S: i dont practice what i preach either but there is always a room for improvement.

Allaah says in Holy Quran:
"marry them with the permission of their own folk and give them their mahr (dowry) according to what is reasonable; they should be chaste, not adulterous, nor taking boyfriends…” [al-Nisaa’ 4:25]

Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Among my ummah will be those who make permissible al-hira(adultry or zinah), silk, khamr and musical instruments . . .” (Reported by al-Bukhaari; see al-Fath, 10/51).

Anas (may Allaah be pleased with him) reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “In this ummah there will be punishments of earthquakes, showers of stones and deformity (transformation into animals); that will be when the people drink khamr, listen to female singers and play musical instruments.” (See al-Silsilah al-Saheehah, 2203; attributed to Ibn Abi’l-Dunyaa, Dhamm al-Malaahi; the hadeeth was narrated by al-Tirmidhi, no. 2212).

*Smartass comments are not welcome, ty in advance, but feedback..yh*
May Allah pardon us all. Ameen.

such words (bold one) do not deserve to be a part of fruitful Islamic discussions, since they intend to cause more evil than good. Think about it. :regular_s

If only i had googled just as hard as you did, DAMN! :(

If only i had googled just as hard as you did, DAMN! :(

^^^an ideal example to describe a hmmm... ok neva mind...

pari, ozymoron? oxymoron? or just moron?

haven't you made enough mockery of yourself?

Well Iam Muslim iwill answer this Question if she is your Wife you can do with her what do you want and dance with her :teeth_smi .but if she not ur wife that forddin in Islam but some of us dont respect that lol :teeth_smi

IN BRIEF...,

I Dont Think We Have Any Qualified( MuFTI) In This Forum To Answer This Ques??
Because Ordinary People Like Us Cant Say Harram Or Hallah BECAUSE WE MIGHT NOT HAVE THAT KNOWLDGE LIKE THEY DO, BECAUSE ANY STATMENT THY COME UP WITH IS BASED ON SO MANY STUDIES IN QURAN AND HADITH

Now a days even the Lord's name is repeated in VAIN--No matter what religion-
Who ever truly beleives in his or her religion and practices it faithfully will not even have to worry about dancing.
But moderates liek most people will do within limits.

IN BRIEF...,

I Dont Think We Have Any Qualified( MuFTI) In This Forum To Answer This Ques??
Because Ordinary People Like Us Cant Say Harram Or Hallah BECAUSE WE MIGHT NOT HAVE THAT KNOWLDGE LIKE THEY DO, BECAUSE ANY STATMENT THY COME UP WITH IS BASED ON SO MANY STUDIES IN QURAN AND HADITH

don worry im here ;)

don worry im here ;)
I agree but what do us do in the meanwhile.
I saw a wonderful movie called "Dasyra Madina"
It is good about the married life a girl who was a bride for just a night and supposedely not consumating the marriage but she got pregnant.It is all MUSLIM settings and Characters.

I agree but what do us do in the meanwhile.
I saw a wonderful movie called "Dasyra Madina"
It is good about the married life a girl who was a bride for just a night and supposedely not consumating the marriage but she got pregnant.It is all MUSLIM settings and Characters.

n da point is..? :confused:

n da point is..? :confused:
I am not.I see not reason for a man dancing with his wife.Of course it depends on the individual..

I am not.I see not reason for a man dancing with his wife.Of course it depends on the individual..

:confused:

yeh kya boley ja rahi hai.. mere pallay nahi pad raha :confused:

:confused:

yeh kya boley ja rahi hai.. mere pallay nahi pad raha :confused:
You will need to translate into English..

You will need to translate into English..

ummm nevermind... :rolleyes:

What is the status of dance with wife in islam.

In islam it is forbidden or Haram for men or women to dance,even with your wife or husband it is not permitted.

In islam it is forbidden or Haram for men or women to dance,even with your wife or husband it is not permitted.
Agreed -But What about Concubines--Those were allowed but can they dance

Agreed -But What about Concubines--Those were allowed but can they dance

Nope not allowed either,dancing for entertainment in any form is haram period!

Nope not allowed either,dancing for entertainment in any form is haram period!
Not trying to win an arguement but even though it is Haram Yet it is done.

Not trying to win an arguement but even though it is Haram Yet it is done.

Well many things are haram yet people still do them,..its cultural influence more than anything.

Well many things are haram yet people still do them,..its cultural influence more than anything.
What I have ratanolized is that it was not the Dancing so much but It -Dancing was a part of the heathen practice in worshipping the Idols.In other religions Dancing is still done in the same way but that is not Islam.
I do not dance that often but when I do it is not in any ceremony hehe

I do not dance that often but when I do it is not in any ceremony hehe

I usally dance in the shower with the shower head as the Mic pretending to be george michael! :shades_sm

I usally dance in the shower with the shower head as the Mic pretending to be george michael! :shades_sm
I see nothing wrong in that and it does not make you less of a Muslim.

I see nothing wrong in that and it does not make you less of a Muslim.


Well maybe not but from Islams point of view it is haram according to the rules...the way i see its impossible to stick to every rule,especially these days.

1-- u need to know wat is the definition of dancing
2-- in wat situation r u tokin bout...

if ur tokin bout disco in clubs or anything of that sort... whther ur wid ur wife or sum1 elses (lol) its not allowed.

however islam allows a man and a women (husband and wife) to do wat ever they want wid each other (wid some restrictions tho) within the privacy of their room... i dont see any issues wid a slow dance or a lil bit of singin for ur wife etc...

1 thing u must remember... the Prophet (SAW) and the sahaba (RA) were moderate people... take the example of khalid bin waleed etc they were normal guys like u n me... n khalid too had some weaknesses...

its only the muslims later who tuk islamic philosophies n guidelines and enforced them in da strictest way possible.

the quran doesnot shy away from topics like sex, polygamy and relationships etc which is still considered as a taboo in our so-called modern soceities...

the Prophet (SAW) himself was a kind hearted human being.. he was romantic... its reported from authentic hadith that rasulAllah (SAW) have asked men to be generous and helpful towards their wives... and even help the wife in household stuff... n to smile at them (smilin at sum1 is better than givin charity)... basically show affection towards them

the restriction on dance n music can be debated for hours n hours... but one must draw the lines 1st... whats da situation n wat is the definition of "dance" in ur question. im sure if u pop dis question to any "proper" islamic scholar... he/she wud ask u da same...

my thinkin tho.. is... ppl must worry bout more serious offences rather that worrying for these minor things like dancing wid ur wife etc... many muslims these days dont pray (they dont know how to pray), they dont read quran, theyve never been for hajj/umrah etc. Yet when it comes to sumthin regarding music/dance/gf-bf issues/sexual topics etc they want things to be clear from da islamic perspective.

I usally dance in the shower with the shower head as the Mic pretending to be george michael! :shades_sm

as long as u havent invited people to "enjoy" the show... jus relax

:D

i dont understand, why would someone want to dance anyway? whats so good about dancing, partying, etc?

interesting topic....

Sha jahan bhai..ekdam chakka mardeya..kiddin..mashallah u have used the right words..I was gonna elaborate but I lost my words =D

Talkin about wife which is also family..It is is said in one of the hadiths that..U dun have to be all day in the masjid readin the 5 prayers..Don't make ur house a graveyard..Read some namaz in ur house and do ur responsibilities and take spend a little time with ur family..thts part of ur deeds..must be offtopic but not debated tht much

Music..I'm not a scholar but from my knowledge music is haram when it captueres ur mind..actualy anything accept Allah (swt) is in ur mind is haram.. but its not tht easy these days...some people would say imposible but I said not easy coz nothing is immposible and dancing with ur wife is not haram..to love ur wife...its just showin ur love..and as the others said..depends on the meaning of ur question

i dont understand, why would someone want to dance anyway? whats so good about dancing, partying, etc?

Nothing is good bro in this world except Allah (swt)..to be truthful..its just the signs tht the judgement day is not far..ya Allah (swt) just ask for reham

WHAT A STUPID TOPIC! MANY MUSLIMS DANCE WITH THEIR WIVES IN PUBLIC......


AND BTW, WHO CARES!

yh thts what we were talking bout..
we just don't flirt like loosers we even talk like loosers and thnk u to share ur comments with us

hmmmmm....i really dont knw much about islam soo i wont comment

Islam is a universal religion and not limited to those who dictates how to reach Allah-
It is better and the rewards are greater to pray in congregation
But nothing prevents anyone to stay at home and worship.
You are your own mediatoer between yourself and Allah-

i dont understand, why would someone want to dance anyway? whats so good about dancing, partying, etc?

my thoughts precisely! lol


k so wasammerbobberz touched on this topic breifly when he said that anything that captures your mind (or something) is haram, and that is why music is haraam.
and i know this might be a little bit off-topic (but not very much so), but i was wondering - why is it said that music is haraam?
if anybody can come up with hadiths to back up what they say, that'd be great. but if u cant, then i'll try to take your word for it. lol.

Okay, so I was a little eager to have my question answered. So I googled it. I'll share what I found...

Here are two links I found that say that music is haraam:
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/music.html
http://www.geocities.com/kkhaan/musicharam.html
...But they don't say why. I don't know. They don't explain it well. Not at first glance, at least.


And then I came across this link, which states that music is not haraam, under most circumstances:
http://www.themodernreligion.com/misc/hh/music.html
I trust hadiths by al-Bukhari and Muslim since I've read quite a few ones by them, and know for a fact that they're quite reliable.

I agree mostly with the last link I've posted.
Is it because that's what I WANT to believe?
Or because it sounds more logical and backed up with stronger evidence?
I'm not sure.

I think music, is one of those topics where there is a lot grey areas. Some say it's haram, some say not.

In essence I think it's more to do with what message the song/piece of music carries and what it leads to.

People are actually using music to get to the youth nowadays because it's the best way. There's a lot of 'Nasheeds' (Islamic music, e.g. Sami Yousuf) and 'Naats' (music in Urdu) around now that bring forward religious messages. However, Dad argues that,that's not really music it's more like "poetry". :sarcastic ...LOL!

Hmm, true...

I guess it's the message that matters.
And it's open for different interpretations.

I've heard some of Sami Yousuf's music. (I think it was him.) It takes some getting used to. But it's really nice.