Islam...&..woman

So I was youtubing the other day and ran into this video


Its about the stance of muslim women, from the prespective of this Canadian born Pakistani origin women.

I personally don't agree with it all. But I do wanna know your opinion and if you have some proof either siding with or against this documentary.
Its in 6 parts and heres the link to the first video the rest are on the right hand scroll on that page.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MPgQtDB318Y

brief summary:
Well basically theres this lady in canada who grew up going to a masjid that didn't practice the custom of keeping women and men in separate areas. The lady then started seeing people in the masjid putting in curtains and divisions between men and women which slowly led up to the creation of completely different rooms for women altogether.

The rest of the documentary shows some Imams and other 'religious' people advocating against divisions between men and women. It also depicts that in the time of the Prophet(pbuh) that men and women would be conversing freely and openly and that women were not required to be placed behind a curtain or a separtion of any sort. The documentary also states that Muslim women are not required to follow the explain of the Prophet(pbuh)'s wives (pbu them)


There are some parts in the documentary that go on to say that the concept of separations and such was created by third world countries and immigrants coming from these countries---such as Pakistanis, Indians, and Bengladeshis etc.

Why always women?!..:p

Personally, I don't see the problem in having a seperate space for men and women. Isn't it a good thing?!

Maybe, it was more of a problem in that video because men and women hadn't originally been seperate...so people didn't like the sudden change. Otherwise in a lot of mosques prayer rooms for men and women are always seperate.

if they mix the men and the women in mosques then ppl go to the mosque for a completely diff purpose.

we are talking about a Mosque, not some social gathering
segregation sjould not be a problem.
u r there to pray not to be in the company of man or woman....

exactly. some of my friends go to mosque solely to look for elegible bachlors. LOL..theyre a diff type of muslim than myself. but i still dont know how they manage to do it. going to "pray" becomes a social gathering and...from the stories i hear....it's just SO silly what theyre doing..

eg: my friend's been asked "wanna pray together? ;) "
:S

^^lol...and this is exactly why islam requires men n women to pray separately..coz it leads to diversion of attention from the prayer.

im lost in this topic.

im confused in this thread.

Okay just my cents! This is where mosques n mandirs/tempels mostly differ, we have to pray saperately in mosques. Lets say! males, females n etc, pray together, i myself is not innocent enough not to stare at the girls, even girls would stare/smile/co-operate with us boys. It about faith and trust. I trust them but i dont trust the devil in them.

exactly. some of my friends go to mosque solely to look for elegible bachlors. LOL..theyre a diff type of muslim than myself. but i still dont know how they manage to do it. going to "pray" becomes a social gathering and...from the stories i hear....it's just SO silly what theyre doing..
That's not the reason we go to the mosque...?:whatchuta

we are talking about a Mosque, not some social gathering
segregation sjould not be a problem.
u r there to pray not to be in the company of man or woman....
That was the idea behind going to a Mosque, idiot! Everyone met each other at the Mosque where they could talk about their problems and help others.

And you don't need to go to a Mosque to pray.

That was the idea behind going to a Mosque, idiot! Everyone met each other at the Mosque where they could talk about their problems and help others.

And you don't need to go to a Mosque to pray.

ur the idiot or is that ur name?
its made quite clear in hadith that a mosque should NOT be used as a place for gossip or worldly banter.
its should be used solely as a place of worship or other religious means

and no one implied u can only pray at a masjid.
(although it is best for men to do so)

if they mix the men and the women in mosques then ppl go to the mosque for a completely diff purpose.
It all has to do with inner controle and not letting saythan take over, but thn again over what do we actually have controle these dayz...:confused:

sameer, you're right about people needing to be able to share stuff with each other and socialize; but i dont think all that should be done at the mosque.

we're talking about segregating guys from girls at the mosque. letting women talk to women about stuff is okay, and men with men is okay too. but you wouldnt start up these conversations at the mosque. you'd find another place.

and also, youre right, you dont HAVE to go to a moqsue to pray. but it's better for men to. (im not sure why. if anybody knows, please do tell me...or maybe it's cuz the men arent home most of the time cuz their jobs and such require them to be outside of the house (?) correct me if im rong...)...and for women to prey at home. because that's where most of their responsibilities as a woman lie.


nazok_pari, you're right - most of the people i know dont have the inner control that you're talking about. they need those physical barriers.

That was the idea behind going to a Mosque, idiot! Everyone met each other at the Mosque where they could talk about their problems and help others.

And you don't need to go to a Mosque to pray.

you are a tool, are'nt you?

you're not even allowed to eat (only in aitqaaf) or speak aloud in the mosque.

If ppl got problems, they should consult dr phil or oprah winfrey, leave mosques for praying only.

and meetings can be held anywhere, during marriages, funerals, etc.

sameer, you're right about people needing to be able to share stuff with each other and socialize; but i dont think all that should be done at the mosque.

we're talking about segregating guys from girls at the mosque. letting women talk to women about stuff is okay, and men with men is okay too. but you wouldnt start up these conversations at the mosque. you'd find another place.

and also, youre right, you dont HAVE to go to a moqsue to pray. but it's better for men to. (im not sure why. if anybody knows, please do tell me...or maybe it's cuz the men arent home most of the time cuz their jobs and such require them to be outside of the house (?) correct me if im rong...)...and for women to prey at home. because that's where most of their responsibilities as a woman lie.


nazok_pari, you're right - most of the people i know dont have the inner control that you're talking about. they need those physical barriers.
Men pray at the mosque because that's he first and best place to pray a, whether you do it alone or in a group, but because like you said the women are tied up with all the work at home they can just pray at home, thats no problem.

The mosques have seperate spaces where people can get together and hang out with eachother, but that is sperated for men and women. Besides, in the 21st century, the only reason why men and women want to interact with eachother is because they want a partner. I don't see any reasons as to why this shouldnt stay sperated. The mosque is where you can practice your religion But where you can also be with your own people..FOR THE RIGHT REASONS! If you're looking for a partner go to shaadi.com or to your local mall!:D

yeup...fer sure :]

Men pray at the mosque because that's he first and best place to pray a, whether you do it alone or in a group, but because like you said the women are tied up with all the work at home they can just pray at home, thats no problem.

The mosques have seperate spaces where people can get together and hang out with eachother, but that is sperated for men and women. Besides, in the 21st century, the only reason why men and women want to interact with eachother is because they want a partner. I don't see any reasons as to why this shouldnt stay sperated. The mosque is where you can practice your religion But where you can also be with your own people..FOR THE RIGHT REASONS! If you're looking for a partner go to shaadi.com or to your local mall!:D

i surrender ;)

If you're looking for a partner go to shaadi.com or to your local mall!:D
how about an online forum? :wink_smil

No chance yaar!:p :D

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:p

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cheer up yaar ;)

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I am cheered up Mr.Fraudzz;)

good girl ;)

I thought you liked bad girls:(
:p

depends on my mood ;)

Lol wow
acha..

so now what kinda mood r you in?

to face a "bad girl" ;)

Acha..well come to me thn!;)

u 2 get a room :p


and thanx Nazok pari for the compliment :)

lol okay Aaliyah! :p

chalo pari, lets go somewhere else for mazeed flirting ;)

I can have a nice, friendly chat with you too Aaliyah:)
Where are you from?

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