Slums in India

i read in an indian newspaper three four days ago that the slums in india have doubled. unfortunately i dont have the link to that article. i am not sure if anyone of you came across that article. its kind of alarming issue which shocked me. i was expecting slums to go down, on the contrary it said the slums have doubled over the past decades. what are the reasons for the slums to be on the rise? can it be curbed?

In my opinion the problem is the government, I don't think they take much interest in solving issues like that.

its a shame, India is doing gr8 to up its profile, for a developing coutry its seen as the next super power. with their gr8 Education system and business ventures it definately growing..
but u no wot they say all this development just means the richer will get richer and the divide between the rich and poor will increase .
yes the govt is partly to blame, although it has improved immensely from wot it used to be, but lets face it it very difficult to manage a HUGE nation like India.
i consider as a Brit we are very lucky...

The main reasons for rise of slums are
* Poverty
* Population growth
* Migration to the cities
* Home in the vicinity of work (like mill workers)
* Beggar rackets and illegal activities


Other than that there are many vested interests for politicians and underworld in keeping these slums. For politicians this is a major vote bank. They fulfill their basic needs and in turn get votes, free campaigners and even dummies for political games. For the underworld it is the convenience to carry out illegal activities. The beggar racket is also on the rise and one of the most profitable businesses in India. Their link ups reach to highest levels of bureaucracy.

India is notorius for its slums,thats where pakistan leads india.

It is growing as the ecconomy grows.Think about it-The slums are mostly in the vicinity of the urban community.

It is growing as the ecconomy grows.Think about it-The slums are mostly in the vicinity of the urban community.

For country like India with such a well educated population and one of the worlds fastest growing economys isn't a bit embarrassing having all these slums everywhere,im sure if the government cut the defensive budget by 30%and put that money into affordable houseing and welfare they could end this misery and suffering of millions of these extremely poor people,and the other thing that doesn't help is the cast system which again gives india a terribly bad in the worlds eyes.

For country like India with such a well educated population and one of the worlds fastest growing economys isn't a bit embarrassing having all these slums everywhere,im sure if the government cut the defensive budget by 30%and put that money into affordable houseing and welfare they could end this misery and suffering of millions of these extremely poor people,and the other thing that doesn't help is the cast system which again gives india a terribly bad in the worlds eyes.
Personally I will agree with you but practically it may happen in another decade.Those people in the slums will not be like that forever as the next generation will move up the ladder and take care of the first generation but UNFORTUNATELY as they gradually move others will take their place.

Personally I will agree with you but practically it may happen in another decade.Those people in the slums will not be like that forever as the next generation will move up the ladder and take care of the first generation but UNFORTUNATELY as they gradually move others will take their place.

Thats simply not good enough to say this will happen in another decade,the problem is so widespread to a point of embarassment that the issue needs to be addressed now.I'm sure if every bollywood star and people of influence got out and took and stand against this action would be taken by government.Its not a such a big problem which cannot be solved,Pakistan is also a developing country and in a lot of ways behind indian in terms of economic growth and power yet Pakistan has no slums.I think the problem lies elswhere and needs to be addressed,passing it onto the next generation in hope that the problem may be solved is not a solution!

Thats simply not good enough to say this will happen in another decade,the problem is so widespread to a point of embarassment that the issue needs to be addressed now.I'm sure if every bollywood star and people of influence got out and took and stand against this action would be taken by government.Its not a such a big problem which cannot be solved,Pakistan is also a developing country and in a lot of ways behind indian in terms of economic growth and power yet Pakistan has no slums.I think the problem lies elswhere and needs to be addressed,passing it onto the next generation in hope that the problem may be solved is not a solution!
Talking about BOLLYWOOD STARS-The very people living in the slums are the ones who support Bollywood cinema.
Even though Pakistan may not have slums it is still considered an UNdemocratic Copuntry whereas India is.
I did say that Personally I agree with you but yet it will not happen.These people are the life and blood of the policicians.

Talking about BOLLYWOOD STARS-The very people living in the slums are the ones who support Bollywood cinema.
Even though Pakistan may not have slums it is still considered an UNdemocratic Copuntry whereas India is.
I did say that Personally I agree with you but yet it will not happen.These people are the life and blood of the policicians.

The people in slums have no choice,they support bollywood as a form of escapism from their world of poverty.These unfortunate people have no voice no one wants to listen to them only because they have nothing.Someone needs to take action and only people with wealth,power and influence can give these people a voice.Don't bollywood stars have a heart?they live in their 5 Star apartment in mumbai faceing the slums and see the suffering everyday yet do nothing...In terms of Pakistan being undemocratic i would rather choose that than have millions of poor suffering people around me.and what can't u do in Pakistan that you can do in India care to tell me?

The people in slums have no choice,they support bollywood as a form of escapism from their world of poverty.These unfortunate people have no voice no one wants to listen to them only because they have nothing.Someone needs to take action and only people with wealth,power and influence can give these people a voice.Don't bollywood stars have a heart?they live in their 5 Star apartment in mumbai faceing the slums and see the suffering everyday yet do nothing...In terms of Pakistan being undemocratic i would rather choose that than have millions of poor suffering people around me.and what can't u do in Pakistan that you can do in India care to tell me?
I do agree with you but if those people in the slums can reason like me and you then they will use their VOTES to ensure there are people who can really help them in the Government and about Bollywood Stars-They will realise that they can not afford to go to the cinema and will use that money to better their lives.

I do agree with you but if those people in the slums can reason like me and you then they will use their VOTES to ensure there are people who can really help them in the Government and about Bollywood Stars-They will realise that they can not afford to go to the cinema and will use that money to better their lives.


The last thing on these people's minds is VOTES,they live day by day trying to think of ways get some food for their themselves,they have long given up on government or system to help,India may be a democracy but it has to the worst kind of democracy ever where only the rich get richer and the poor end up in slums.

The last thing on these people's minds is VOTES,they live day by day trying to think of ways get some food for their themselves,they have long given up on government or system to help,India may be a democracy but it has to the worst kind of democracy ever where only the rich get richer and the poor end up in slums.
You have very good rational and we do agree on the same points so why can they not use their votes-If they do then Government will do something as those votes are crucial for winning an election.

You have very good rational and we do agree on the same points so why can they not use their votes-If they do then Government will do something as those votes are crucial for winning an election.

Indian slums are famous the world over and have been around for decades,portrayed in movies and paintings,my point being its accepted as a part of India so no one really cares.The problem no care to see these people as humans like us but some invisible race that lives alongside us.What are they called in india oh the "Untouchables" people of the slums even have a term used by wealthy or the middle classes now.And your saying by them Voting it would suddenly change things for them?you know aswell as i do that votes don't make an ounce of difference in India or third world countries.Polticians only get into power for their own personal gains and nothing more.

Indian slums are famous the world over and have been around for decades,portrayed in movies and paintings,my point being its accepted as a part of India so no one really cares.The problem no care to see these people as humans like us but some invisible race that lives alongside us.What are they called in india oh the "Untouchables" people of the slums even have a term used by wealthy or the middle classes now.And your saying by them Voting it would suddenly change things for them?you know aswell as i do that votes don't make an ounce of difference in India or third world countries.Polticians only get into power for their own personal gains and nothing more.

i agree, votes have no value, they are just a piece of paper with words in them. The government wont do a thing about these people in the slums, the only they care of is money. Corruption of money...

the bare facts are, India as a country is thriving.
this just means the richer will get richer and the poor will stay poor.
there is no way round it.

unfortunately,the sheer size/population of India makes it diificult to manage all its citizens and ofcourse there is the big issue of corrupt government.
although, i feel it has improved considerably from its previous state.
ppl are becoming wiser when choosing goverments. the recent party for instance has made good progress.
Stability is the most inportant thing, its easy for us to tut-tut this issue.
yes its depressing to have so many ppl leaving in such drastic conditions, but there are coutries in the world worse off, looks at Kenya, Iraq and now Pakistan.
and many other coutries where u are constantly living in fear of what will happen next???

ppl, have anyone of you gone down there? oh puleeeezzz stop gulping down the juice of ambiguity.....

and comparing India/Pakistan with Iraq/Kenya? ohhhh man, may God guide you...

having been lived in kenya i know life is pakistan n india is way better than that in kenya....

now speaking of slums, media only take pictures of the slums, beggers etc.
and there are gainfully employed people in these slums right? they are providing a service to the city and its people, which means they are needed. Its less of an issue of overcrowding and more of being illequipped to handle the influx of people.
many large cities around the world have to deal with same problems- affordable housing, public transport infrastructure can help in that regard....

like a "wise" MOD said in another thread, no country is perfect.....

ppl, have anyone of you gone down there? oh puleeeezzz stop gulping down the juice of ambiguity.....

and comparing India/Pakistan with Iraq/Kenya? ohhhh man, may God guide you...

having been lived in kenya i know life is pakistan n india is way better than that in kenya....


thats what i wanted to point out.....


now speaking of slums, media only take pictures of the slums, beggers etc.
and there are gainfully employed people in these slums right? they are providing a service to the city and its people, which means they are needed. Its less of an issue of overcrowding and more of being illequipped to handle the influx of people.
many large cities around the world have to deal with same problems- affordable housing, public transport infrastructure can help in that regard....

like a "wise" MOD said in another thread, no country is perfect.....

xactly.




ithink instead of piting a situation which is by large beyond our control( unless u have direct links at the Commons)
ppl shoul focus on things that can help the situation.
Pity does no good wotsoever, and the Blame game never ends.

thats what i wanted to point out.....

xactly.

ithink instead of piting a situation which is by large beyond our control( unless u have direct links at the Commons)
ppl shoul focus on things that can help the situation.
Pity does no good wotsoever, and the Blame game never ends.

atlast! finally someone agrees with me over something on this board.... shukriya Aaliyah....

I just read this whole 2 pages.. Interesting thought...
I think I said dat no country is perfect.. Did you mean me Fraudie??? Its true.. All has it drawbacks.. Look who we got for prime minister? Gordon Brown? The shame I say about that!!

Neways back to the slums.. We cant complain the people.. Nothing we say will help will it? People in the place should be doing that.. I would say if you really want to get something done then DO SOMETHING.. Not everyone is afraid are they? About how coz they are poor they cant do anything about the slums? Of course they can.. Anyone can do ANYTHING they set their minds on (Cant believe I said that.. Maybe I should listen to myself more often!!!).. You just have to the the courage and guts.. Personally I think its the people at the place who needs to decide what they want to do with the slums.. If they get together.. protest and fight for it the Government wont have a choice will they? They will ignore it once.. twice.. but keep it going.. N you cant ignore it third time.. It depends on the people to try and do something.. You cant ALWAYS expect others to do it for you about your conditions... Even though its everyone issues.. But it will only be heard if they people in the conditions do something!! You have to try and do something yourself..

I think I said dat no country is perfect.. Did you mean me Fraudie???

cant remember, its history....

Hmmmmmmm
Okkkkkkkay!!!

I just read this whole 2 pages.. Interesting thought...
I think I said dat no country is perfect.. Did you mean me Fraudie??? Its true.. All has it drawbacks.. Look who we got for prime minister? Gordon Brown? The shame I say about that!!

Neways back to the slums.. We cant complain the people.. Nothing we say will help will it? People in the place should be doing that.. I would say if you really want to get something done then DO SOMETHING.. Not everyone is afraid are they? About how coz they are poor they cant do anything about the slums? Of course they can.. Anyone can do ANYTHING they set their minds on (Cant believe I said that.. Maybe I should listen to myself more often!!!).. You just have to the the courage and guts.. Personally I think its the people at the place who needs to decide what they want to do with the slums.. If they get together.. protest and fight for it the Government wont have a choice will they? They will ignore it once.. twice.. but keep it going.. N you cant ignore it third time.. It depends on the people to try and do something.. You cant ALWAYS expect others to do it for you about your conditions... Even though its everyone issues.. But it will only be heard if they people in the conditions do something!! You have to try and do something yourself..

True, one person can make all the difference.

However, it's still easier said than done isn't it?
It requires a lot of motivation and will power to carry out such a movement. It's not easy...and it's very likely that people will just get brushed aside and ignored. Personally, I do think that the poor can't solve the problem themselves they do need some leverage from the upper classes.


Just a thought...

well better solution spend some money on those place..work on tht slums