Mohd. Afzal!

aksstar
18-10-2006, 12:03 AM
Mohd Afzal is a terrorist. He is accused of masterminding the attacks against the Indian parliament in 2001. The Supreme court of India has passed its judgement that is, to hang afzal.

Should Afzal (Kashmiri - Indian) be hanged?

This is being debated by Indians all around. I just wanted to get your thoughts and opinion on this issue.

The people who support clemency for him argue that hanging him will cause a turmoil in Kashmir: according to them 'Kashimir will go up in flames, it will burn' Cummunal tensions will rise and the peace process between India and Pak and the peace process in Kashmir will be severely affected (negative sense). This group of people want the death sentence to be changed to life imprisonment.

Ones who support the hanging of Afzal say that he is terrorist. Playing a role in the attacks on the institution and democracy of India (parliament) is no small offense and thus he should be rightly punished. A strong signal must be sent to the terrorists - India will show no mercy'.

My view on this is simple. He needs to be hanged. I think justice cannot and should not be put on the back burner. If he is not taken care off then that will just show what a weak state India really is (thats my opinion). Others can argue that hanging him will make things worse, but honestly answer this is there an end to this? Each time a terrorist is captured, are we just going to sit back and let the currupt poiliticians of this country and terrorists dictate law and order? I say **** human rights. Where did these rights go when 13 people died in those attacks on the parliament? Iron cuts Iron. Nothing else works. I'll also say a lot of the people are trying to turn this into a religious debate by saying that hanging a muslim will send a wrong message to the muslim cummunity in India and will further worsen this senstive situation. But that's just Bull. I say hang the guy no matter what religion he belongs to. I dont care if hes a Hindu, Muslim, Sikh or Christian. If he has played a role in killing innocent people then he must be punished.

I realize that this is a sensitive issue, so im not going to get into the details of the case. However here is a man who has obviously commited a crime, has been found guilty of doing so, is recognized by the International community as a terrorist. Shouldn't he be given the sentence he deserves?

I know a lot of you will say that hanging sentence is too extreme and should not be excercised. But then answer me this..If an in event he is given clemency by the President of India, under article 72 of the criminal penal code of India...What is the garuntee that some of his friends wont hijack another Indian plane and demand his release? Its happened before where India had to hand over a bunch of terrorists to save the lives of many indians on that Indian Airliner that got hijacked.
So think before you decide the faith of this guy.

The President is expected to pass his judgement on Oct.20 i think. That was the date Afzal was to be hanged. However looking at the way Indian politics works and the curruption in this country. I doubt he'll be hanged.

Mr. Farooq Abhdullah, ex-chief minister of kashmir appeared on national television the other day and commuted his sentiments on the issue. I personally admired the guy. He seemed tough on cracking down on terrorists. However on the show he said that 'The valley will burn if he is hanged, and went even further by sayin 'India will burn'. Thats a complete u-turn. Perhaps he wants to get re-elected in Kashmir? What say?

In conclusion I wanna ask the following 'what about the justice to the families of those who lost their loved ones in the hands of these so called 'indians'.

Peace Out!

akki4life
19-10-2006, 04:20 AM
i think ur right that he shld be killed. my belief is one who does harm to another shld be killed right away.

but then again, me personally, i wld rather torture some1 who does harm rather then kill him/her. torture that person so bad and remind that person of what he has done, i find that more revengeful rather then just having a quick death.

depending on the type of crime, for terriosts, they shld be killed right away, because aks is correct on how their partners wld plan anotther crime to get their person back.

but for ppl like rapists, ppl who shoot kids at skools, and stuff like that, i say torture them sum of bitches. lol

PuNjAbI KuDi
19-10-2006, 05:44 AM
yehhh Akki i agree with u...torture is far worse than being executed..cause when ur executed u dont have the time to replay what u did over and over again in ur mind..and u dont feel the guilt this way..but in the case of terrorists yeh they should be executed because of the whole thing of their "yaars" trying to get them out but then that can happen with anyone..not just terrorists.

fantasticguy
19-10-2006, 05:57 AM
make him listen to bhoot's singing.. tht wuld be a torture :p

jokes apart.....i think he shuld be killed.... those who r risk to india shuld be....

Rubz
19-10-2006, 05:50 PM
am busy atm so ma views coming down soon...

PuNjAbI KuDi
21-10-2006, 11:19 PM
i think torturing ppl to remind them of what they've done is disguisting.


hmm bhoot im gonna have to disagree with u on that...when somebody has committed a crime i think they should serve their sentence in jail so they can have the time to reflect on what they have done. this allows them to feel the guilt and have some remorse...but if u execute the person right after they have been convicted ur letting them off really easy in my opinion...why should they get the easy way out when the famillies of those victims the person has either killed or hurt have to live without their loved one for the restr of their life? see what im saying?

fantasticguy
22-10-2006, 06:33 AM
kinda agree with reena.. regarding .. let them feel the pain n suffering....let them understand and feel what they did was wrong... let them feel the pain the other ppl suffered because of what happened...unless a person realise..and feel ashamed of his deed...it wont be of any use... they bomb something...they r killed.. no point.. importance is making ppl understand..that terrorism is not the way to achieve something..and all

aksstar
22-10-2006, 08:13 AM
Gonna have to disgree with u lot there. This aint happyland where criminals can be let off that easy. If you put em in jail, they'll find a way to get out. This is almost always the case with high profile criminals. They find one way or another to get out of jail. The indian law does not garauntee imprisonment, sorry to say this but its true. Bribery, curruption and Contacts
do that talking there, so if you happen to be Mohd Afzal you are gonna know ministers, other high profile criminals, and other contacts.
So hanging him seems to be the only way out of this cuz once yer dead u aint goin nowhere.

PuNjAbI KuDi
22-10-2006, 10:37 PM
Gonna have to disgree with u lot there. This aint happyland where criminals can be let off that easy. If you put em in jail, they'll find a way to get out. This is almost always the case with high profile criminals. They find one way or another to get out of jail. The indian law does not garauntee imprisonment, sorry to say this but its true. Bribery, curruption and Contacts
do that talking there, so if you happen to be Mohd Afzal you are gonna know ministers, other high profile criminals, and other contacts.
So hanging him seems to be the only way out of this cuz once yer dead u aint goin nowhere.

yehh im not saying this guy shouldnt be hanged...i was just responding to bhoot's point that torture is disgusting...so yeh he should be executed or else he's gonna get out and do it all over again

aksstar
23-10-2006, 02:17 AM
oh acha..ye torture em then hang em :P

akki4life
23-10-2006, 02:23 AM
its true, that sometimes you just have to kill a criminal right away because of how dangerours they are. but i still like the idea of toturing some1 first.

as far as the comment on "doing a crime because i needed the money for doctors bill" or whatever, well, a crime is still a crime. in a country like canada, there can be no excuse of committing a crime. beucase this country offers one so much that the whole reason of "i comitted this crime because im poor" should not even cross a persons mind. but in a country like india or pakistan, i can understand that, but still, a crime is a crime, and that person who takes away anothers persons happiness for his own, we should not be lenient on him/her.

aksstar
19-12-2006, 07:55 AM
^ yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeee well hes gonna be free fer some time eh

Ek Ajnabee
19-12-2006, 10:23 AM
hang him!

leila_r
22-12-2006, 05:35 PM
hang sameer!:D

BLAH!
ya'all want torture for him cause it aint you in his place. Face it, if u were asked to choose between torture or a fast dead like getting shot in the head and die right away, you guys would choose for the bullit. Why wish somebody else something you don't want for yourself? What if it was you in his place? Sheeshh..use ur brains to come up with some real solutions that can be used rather thn tawking rubbish useless stuff:)

poisonIVY
22-12-2006, 10:40 PM
I dont know abt him ....but Al qaida ROCKS hahahahahha

*Red Angel*
23-12-2006, 05:39 PM
If he's hung...won't he just be seen as this martyr by his people?! How does that solve the problem?

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