Contradictions in the Qur'an and Bible

These are alledged Contracitions in these two Books. But we agree there are NO Contradictions in either of our books. I will post one alledged Contradiction in the Qur'an. Once any of you has an answer you can type it and post a contradiction in the Bible. This will help us defend our books accurately with no misconseptions.

Was Pharaoh killed or not killed by drowning?

"We took the Children of Israel across the sea: Pharaoh and his hosts followed them in insolence and spite. At length, when overwhelmed with the flood, he said: "I believe that there is no god except Him Whom the Children of Israel believe in: I am of those who submit (to Allah in Islam). (It was said to him): "Ah now!- But a little while before, wast thou in rebellion!- and thou didst mischief (and violence)! This day shall We save thee in the body, that thou mayest be a sign to those who come after thee! but verily, many among mankind are heedless of Our Signs!" (10:90-92).

Moses said, "Thou knowest well that these things have been sent down by none but the Lord of the heavens and the earth as eye-opening evidence: and I consider thee indeed, O Pharaoh, to be one doomed to destruction!" So he resolved to remove them from the face of the earth: but We did drown him and all who were with him," (17:102-103).

dont you got any better topic ... than these Bible vs quran threads ????

I am interested in Islam thats all.

go find another hobby little girl !

lol!

wow nice! nice respond to my post. i dont think i have ever read a better response to my topic :rolleyes:

why thank u :)

i dont see the contridiction there..
whats up with u posting stuff against islam.
im about to go look at the quran and see if those are even real lines. im at school right now but hmm i shall get back to you

so ive read that over and over again and i still dont see the contridiction

this is what i have from the quran
[10:90] We delivered the Children of Israel across the sea. Pharaoh and his troops pursued them, aggressively and sinfully. When drowning became a reality for him, he said, "I believe that there is no god except the One in whom the Children of Israel have believed; I am a submitter."

[10:91] "Too late! For you have rebelled already, and chose to be a transgressor.

and then

[17:102] He said, "You know full well that no one can manifest these except, obviously, the Lord of the heavens and the earth. I think that you, Pharaoh, are doomed."
103.

[17:103] When he pursued them, as he chased them out of the land, we drowned him, together with those who sided with him, all of them.

104.

[17:104] And we said to the Children of Israel afterwards, "Go live into this land. When the final prophecy comes to pass, we will summon you all in one group."

... the both say the same thing
U JUST GOT TO READ THE SORROUNDING AYAHS..
stop being a muslim hater and googling contridictions, when your not even ganna spend the time to read the SORROUNDING verses.
kotha salla.

see i can do it too
Who is the father of Joseph?
MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.

and just to let u kno smart stuff, there is probobly a list of 100+ contridictions on google for ur lovely "bible" and for the quran theres prob at most 5

ill just post one a day and well see whose right and whose wrong.

well said saima !

and i agree with u . he is disrespecting islam

i used to answer his topics but he never read em :loser:

dalijeet u shud be banned :rolleyes:

"We took the Children of Israel across the sea: Pharaoh and his hosts followed them in insolence and spite. At length, when overwhelmed with the flood, he said: "I believe that there is no god except Him Whom the Children of Israel believe in: I am of those who submit (to Allah in Islam). (It was said to him): "Ah now!- But a little while before, wast thou in rebellion!- and thou didst mischief (and violence)! This day shall We save thee in the body, that thou mayest be a sign to those who come after thee! but verily, many among mankind are heedless of Our Signs!" (10:90-92).

Moses said, "Thou knowest well that these things have been sent down by none but the Lord of the heavens and the earth as eye-opening evidence: and I consider thee indeed, O Pharaoh, to be one doomed to destruction!" So he resolved to remove them from the face of the earth: but We did drown him and all who were with him," (17:102-103).

read the underline text.

this will explain the Who was Joesph? http://www.carm.org/diff/2geneologies.htm

No. I do not disresepct Islam. Where have i disrespected Islam? All i did was post threads and questions that appeal to the Bible and Qur'an, Christianity and Islam. I have NO grudge or any conformity with Islam. I ask questions and validate the Bible. I am an apologetic for the Christian faith. This what i do. I ask quesions and receive answers about other religions so i can learn more about them. This just happens to be the a place where i ask questions about Islam. Christianity is all about Jesus Christ. any religion that paints a different picture is my interest.

"We took the Children of Israel across the sea: Pharaoh and his hosts followed them in insolence and spite. At length, when overwhelmed with the flood, he said: "I believe that there is no god except Him Whom the Children of Israel believe in: I am of those who submit (to Allah in Islam). (It was said to him): "Ah now!- But a little while before, wast thou in rebellion!- and thou didst mischief (and violence)! This day shall We save thee in the body, that thou mayest be a sign to those who come after thee! but verily, many among mankind are heedless of Our Signs!" (10:90-92).

Moses said, "Thou knowest well that these things have been sent down by none but the Lord of the heavens and the earth as eye-opening evidence: and I consider thee indeed, O Pharaoh, to be one doomed to destruction!" So he resolved to remove them from the face of the earth: but We did drown him and all who were with him," (17:102-103).

read the underline text.

this will explain the Who was Joesph? http://www.carm.org/diff/2geneologies.htm
um exuse me but i guess u really didnt READ MY FUCKIN POST
cause i cleared out the contridiction by stating THE lines following 10:90-92
which show that both of them say that allah (SWT) did not spear them for their mistake.

if ur making a statement atleast read my response

"I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy." (Jer. 13:14) "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not, but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling."

"The Lord is very pitiful and of tender mercy." (James 5:11)
"For his mercy endureth forever." (1 Chron. 16:34)
"The Lord is good to all, and his tender mercies are over all his works." (Ps. 145:9)
"God is love." (1 John 4:16)

is another contridiction in the bible.

No. I do not disresepct Islam. Where have i disrespected Islam? All i did was post threads and questions that appeal to the Bible and Qur'an, Christianity and Islam. I have NO grudge or any conformity with Islam. I ask questions and validate the Bible. I am an apologetic for the Christian faith. This what i do. I ask quesions and receive answers about other religions so i can learn more about them. This just happens to be the a place where i ask questions about Islam. Christianity is all about Jesus Christ. any religion that paints a different picture is my interest.
yeah u have such a greaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat interest u dont even read what i say.

um exuse me but i guess u really didnt READ MY FUCKIN POST
cause i cleared out the contridiction by stating THE lines following 10:90-92
which show that both of them say that allah (SWT) did not spear them for their mistake.

if ur making a statement atleast read my response


ummm no u did not! you gave me the context of the first verse which says he did not die. It know that. The second verse showed how he did die. that is a contradiction. U did not clarify that. i read ur post. u did not answer it.

"I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy." (Jer. 13:14) "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not, but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling."

"The Lord is very pitiful and of tender mercy." (James 5:11)
"For his mercy endureth forever." (1 Chron. 16:34)
"The Lord is good to all, and his tender mercies are over all his works." (Ps. 145:9)
"God is love." (1 John 4:16)

is another contridiction in the bible.


this is not a contradiction hahaha. Let me explain this with my own knowledge. God is merciful, of tender mercy, and love. I agree with this. Jeremiah shows the wrath of God. Yahweh is a God of Justice. He did bring pain to the people of Almalek. God's nature is good. He is not evil. He cannot sin and He can do no wrong. All that the Lord does is right and just. But, that does not mean that we always understand what God does or why He does it. After all, His thoughts are not our thoughts and His ways are not our ways. Does God bring good and bad upon people? Yes He does. The problem is our perspective. To us it sometimes appears as bad. To God it is righteous.

yeah u have such a greaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat interest u dont even read what i say.


i do read ur posts. i have responded to them.

its not a contridiction because god did not forgive them even though they asked for repentance he didnt forgive them to refrain from repeating such an act and that is told in the verse after

and k heres another contridiction ive come across
Of the Israelites who were freed from the Babylonian captivity, how many were the children of Pahrath-Moab?

Two thousand eight hundred and twelve (Ezra 2:6)

Two thousand eight hundred and eighteen (Nehemiah 7:11)

oh and another
How many were the children of Zattu?

Nine hundred and forty-five (Ezra 2:8)

Eight hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:13)

oh and another
ACT 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

MAT 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

=)

its not a contridiction because god did not forgive them even though they asked for repentance he didnt forgive them to refrain from repeating such an act and that is told in the verse after

and k heres another contridiction ive come across
Of the Israelites who were freed from the Babylonian captivity, how many were the children of Pahrath-Moab?

Two thousand eight hundred and twelve (Ezra 2:6)

Two thousand eight hundred and eighteen (Nehemiah 7:11)

This is what Matt Slick answered about it. I did not know how to answer it.
Ezra was written no later than 450 B.C.1 Nehemiah should be dated during the reign of Artexerxes 1 (464-423 B.C.).2 According to the book, "Talk Thru the Bible," Ezra was written about 538-516 B.C.3 where Nehemiah was written around 444-425 B.C.4 Therefore, the dates of writing are different and the statistical differences can easily be accounted for by considering that during the difference of years, people died, families grew, etc.
I must note that there is a small percentage of copyist errors in numbers throughout the Hebrew Scriptures. It is certainly possible that some of the numbers differ due to copyist mistakes. Nevertheless, the difference in dates of writing can certainly account for the difference in numbers.
(http://www.carm.org/diff/Ezra2.htm)

oh and another
How many were the children of Zattu?

Nine hundred and forty-five (Ezra 2:8)

Eight hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:13)

can be answered as above

oh and another
ACT 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

MAT 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

=)

How is this a contradiction? i dont see any similarities in these verses or dofferences. I dont understand the 2 verses please explain.

What was man created from, blood, clay, dust, or nothing?
"Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood," (96:2).
"We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape, (15:26).
"The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was," (3:59).
"But does not man call to mind that We created him before out of nothing?" (19:67, Yusuf Ali). Also, 52:35).
"He has created man from a sperm-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer! (16:4).

k honestly dilijeet i dont care about the contridictions in the bible
i just googled that and posted it...
the contridictions in christiany have no effect on me
nor do i care enough ( no offense )
i have strong faith in my religion
and if u come across any contridictions in the quran u can let me know and ill see if i can clear the missunderstanding..cause i kno for a fact that ALLAH (SWT) said that he would preserve the quran for us muslims and i have faith in ALLAH (SWT)
and thats all i gotta say

Ha yea i completely understand haha. umm that thing about the How was man created? is a contradiction. it would be super if you can answer that one. My bad for picking useless topics all the time haha

What was man created from, blood, clay, dust, or nothing?
"Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood," (96:2).
"We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape, (15:26).
"The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was," (3:59).
"But does not man call to mind that We created him before out of nothing?" (19:67, Yusuf Ali). Also, 52:35).
"He has created man from a sperm-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer! (16:4).

Wohooo...so we've made up now?:D Good...good.

Meaning of contradiction:a statement or proposition that contradicts or denies another or itself and is logically incongruous.

So the answer is Man was created from dust, blood and sperm.You can't say the verses contradict each other because scientifically all three things are in some way are responsible for the craetion of humans.

"We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape, (15:26).
"The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was," (3:59).

Scientifically, we know that elements present in the human body or needed by the body are present in the earth. For example, iron etc. So that makes those verses true.

"Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood," (96:2).

This is kinda self explanatory....and is also true. Plus, this verse is taken from Surat "Alak", an arabic word which can also mean "a leech like substance". If you look at the word from this point of view then the verse refers to the embryo in it's early stages and it shape resembles a leech, hence the word leech is used a metaphor in this verse. Now this is true again...I mean it's been scientifically proven. So, so far no contradiction.

"He has created man from a sperm-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer! (16:4).

Once again...this is true as this is what happens during reproduction.

Now the final verse:"But does not man call to mind that We created him before out of nothing?" (19:67, Yusuf Ali)

Now this verse does not literally mean man was created from nothing. If you read the verse before it shows man questioning about life after death...because after death there's nothing left of you. So basically Allah (SWT) answers by saying well there was nothing when I first made you.

I don't know if I explained it well enough...but hope it helped. :)

there you go lol

wow nice! ha that would have been hard for me to answer!

Well as long as it answered your question...:p

"We took the Children of Israel across the sea: Pharaoh and his hosts followed them in insolence and spite. At length, when overwhelmed with the flood, he said: "I believe that there is no god except Him Whom the Children of Israel believe in: I am of those who submit (to Allah in Islam). (It was said to him): "Ah now!- But a little while before, wast thou in rebellion!- and thou didst mischief (and violence)! This day shall We save thee in the body, that thou mayest be a sign to those who come after thee! but verily, many among mankind are heedless of Our Signs!" (10:90-92).

Moses said, "Thou knowest well that these things have been sent down by none but the Lord of the heavens and the earth as eye-opening evidence: and I consider thee indeed, O Pharaoh, to be one doomed to destruction!" So he resolved to remove them from the face of the earth: but We did drown him and all who were with him," (17:102-103).

read the underline text.

this will explain the Who was Joesph? http://www.carm.org/diff/2geneologies.htm


I think you should read the lines yourself ....


"We save thee in the body, that thou mayest be a sign to those who come after thee"


they were drowned ...and they did die ...and the body is still reserved.. go to egypt ... btw do u know anything about mummies??

LOL! Try Wikipedia...:p ...it'll have all you need to know about mummies...