Meaning of Life - Sikhism

New here, so let me try my hand at this gently...hope I dont get pop shots taken at me just yet !! :)

SIKHISM

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This week, the majority of Sikhs/Singhs around the World celebrate the inception of Khalsa by the Tenth Guru, Guru Gobind Singh. The term Sikh is applied to all those who follow the teachings of the Guru Granth Sahib (Holy Book), adorned by the Tenth Guru as the everlasting Guru after His passing. The term Singh was applied to all those who followed the example of The Tenth Guru, when he created the Khalsa from the Beloved Five who pledged their allegiance to Him, body and soul, and they were expected to follow a code of practice in life, which was sanctified by a ritualised baptism ceremony. This ceremony epitomised the creation of a 'new being, a saint soldier', who is ever ready to sacrifice him/herself for honour, religion, family, in battle or otherwise (to mention a few).

Also, after The Guru's passing, it was decided by the religious leaders of the time, to apply the term 'Singh' to all those who wanted to be associated and follow Sikhism in their lives, and that's why every boy born in a 'Singh' family is given this middle name and the girls, 'Kaur'. The terms, 'Singh' means lion hearted (a fact signified by the many Singhs who served in the British Army during the World Wars, during India's independance and recently Amritsar, 1984) and 'Kaur' means princess. Technically, one should not take the title of a 'Singh or Kaur' until they have been baptised into the faith, but that has been discounted over the years, as each generation forsakes the priciples of faith for an indoctrinated lifestyle dictated by politics, the free market, trade, migration, employment, crime, warfare, fashion, trends, property, intermarriage, oppression, tyranny, education, wealth, materialisation and anything else you care to add.

So, what is the meaning of life then? If I had the time to ask the 6 billion people of this planet this question individually, I'm quite sure without asking or doing it, that I would probably get 6 billion different answers !

There must be an answer which can be appreciated 'universally' by everyone, everywhere. Many times did I ask this myself in my lifetime and I'm sure many others like me, ask or have asked the same too. Why do we do what we do in life ? What is the purpose of it all ? Does one have to read, learn and absorb the thousands of pages, of divine text contained in the Guru Granth Sahib, The Koran, The Bible, The Torah, The Vedas, Ramayan, Gita, Shastras, Puranas, Dhamapada or the many other religious holy books in a lifetime ?


Very Simple Answer




A VERY, VERY BIG NO !!!





Uhhh...! Are you sure about this ? Oh yes, I am....! What makes you so sure ?




Let's try to keep this really simple, I'm going to throw this conundrum at your intelligence and all you got to do is make a choice, easy peezy...!! You are 'given' a thousand pounds to start with and you are given a choice, either you can take the thousand pounds and invest it wisely in very long term shares, eventually guaranteeing you a million in seventy years or gamble it all in a Casino next door to the bank, which could net you a million in seconds, by inserting a pound into the slot machines there. What option would you take ?




Be honest with yourself when you play this game sitting at the PC, no one else there but you and your thoughts. After you have made your choice, then ask yourself why did you make the choice, you did ? Without sitting in your minds, I know for sure, that the majority of you will choose to 'gamble the thousand pounds in the Casino !!

It's not your thousand pounds in the first place, second you don't want to wait seventy years to get a million (might die before that or might be invalid and not be able enjoy it) and finally, I'm just too lazy to earn it, better if I get it all on a plate now if I can, no wat I mean Harry !!




Those who choose the option of the seventy year wait, I have utter respect and admiration for, I bow to you....why ? Because you choose the "option which absolutely guaranteed that million, without any doubt or loss whatsoever to you or anyone else" !!




Here's another example which defines our role in the Material Way:




Once we are at age of schooling, our parents send us to school to learn the ways of the World through the many subjects on offer. During that period of school, if we don't listen to the 'Teacher' and always cause trouble or become rebellious, chances are we will fail the exams and be put back in the same class, whilst your mates go forward. We may even get dropped to a lower class, if we really were not up to the standards set by the Establishment. And, there's no way you can go to University if, you haven't even completed your high school education or your primary school education, can you ?





The relative answer of life for the Spiritual Way is:




The Lord Creator, Allah, Yawah, Prabu, Jehovah, Om and the many other Names Of God, is our Original Father & Mother, who has sent Us All here on Earth, to learn Him. This World is Our One Divine School, Sikhism, Islam, Christianity, Bhuddism, Hindism are the Given, Divine Courses. The Gurus, The Prophets and Saints are our Respected Teachers. Choose to ignore what the Respected Teachers teach, you fail the final exam and fall victim at Death's Door, which results in you getting sent back right where you started from, in Reincarnation. But, if you truly choose to listen and learn the divine wisdom given by Our Respected Teachers and did well in This Divine School, then you shall be off to the University Of The Lord, from where none returns here again.







The knowledge required to progress up to the University Of the Material Way requires much sacrifice, dedication, hours of studying, exams, courses, modules, certification, money, cheat, influence (even corruption) and all sorts to get that desirable University Position. Then you get low pay, repay loans, try to get up the promotional ladder if your face fits and maybe get a decent wage at the end of thirty years passing, get married maybe, get a home, children and so on. The tragedy of this way of life is that, it gains you a recognized 'status', in the material way of life for a period of time, but it doesn't help you in the hereafter. All this knowledge is only valuable while you live, but of no use after you've gone from here. That's a shame aint it...!!

The knowledge required to progress up to the University Of the Spiritual Way also requires a degree of sacrifice, dedication, study, exams but the difference between the two for anyone (regardless of race, creed or caste) to witness is that, 'if anyone makes this their primary purpose of Life, rather than the other, then The Lord Himself is obliged to complete your material desires which are necessary for your survival and life. The Lord aint got a choice here, I'm afraid…!! 

Herein lies the difference then, one you do out of your 'free will' and suffer the consequences in attempting to reach it, the other way, you dedicate 'your free will' to That Almighty Lord who has to then, sort out your worldly affairs without worrying or bothering you, The Lord makes it His Problem rather than yours. Until one really, really, really, believes this, they cannot see it's 'benefit', and there be the catch !!!




I wouldn't be telling you all this, if I didn't know this myself first, so you then have to make the considerations for yourself, should I follow the teachings of the Gurus, Prophets and Saints as the primary purpose of my life or should I follow my 'free will' and worry about that another day. The choice be ever, yours....!!!




These are the left and right hands of your life, like it or not, and whatever you do in both determines your position and role in either life. Be wise and learn to clasp the two hands together in prayer everyday, surely then, one day you shall clap yourself all the way to eternity.



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waooo it was quite interesting!!!! thanx for sharin :)

Very interesting materials, I'll read it completely soon :)

Sorry for posting it wrong, but I will get my bearings around your home in time. And this is my me and my religion !! Sikh :)

yea same here man!!! where ru from???

SSAkal Bhenji !!

Ever so pleased to meet a 'princess' from my neighbourhood. If you take a quick peek at my original post in the introduction section, Ive put a link telling you all about me. If you still curious for more...just ask, and I'll oblige you.

Aacha...!! :)

lol hahahaha saskal........ lol no need to call me a bhenji....jana will work!!!! :D oh so ur from london!! thatz kool.....

anyways welcum to bwh :D hope to see you around!!!! :)

Aacha, will do Jana Ji... !! :)

Welcome man, I dont usually chek the intro section :P

If I was a 'desi_gunda', I'd wanna know whose coming to my patch (joke) !!! :) :)

thanxs for the info i havent read all of it but will soon by the way im a sikh

sorry where r u from again
me from punjab (chandigar)
by the way im SIkh too
livied in bomby for a whil

thanxs for the info i havent read all of it but will soon by the way im a sikh



sorry where r u from again
me from punjab (chandigar)
by the way im SIkh too
livied in bomby for a whil


SSAkal Da Sikh Gals !! :)

Pleased to 'virtually meet' you both. Curious to no a bit more about me....then read this !! Hope you still like me after the read.... :)

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Thanks for Sharing ...RAM... :D
i'm not Sikh..... :)

in my opinion, you are here because you were "born". simple. you did not have a choice in that. did God bring you here solely for the purpose of having people around who could worship Him. i dont think so.

but, while you are here, and amongst 6 billion others, what are you expected to do? well, in my opinion, you are first expected to address the Roti, Kapda and Makaan situation. i.e. how best you can keep your body mechanism going. else you will die, right?

but is that it?

obviously not.

in this small world, with 6 billion people around us, while addressing the roti, kapda makaan stuff, aren't we also expected to do it correctly?

so what is this "correctly"? and how do we do it correctly? and why is it important to do it correctly? and what would happen if we did not do it correctly?

is that where the religious teahcings come in..to show us as to what is correct and what is wrong? how to do it correctly. what benefits it has.

so is that adequate to make us into better people, make this a better world? is that what it is all about? if yes, then how about other "taam jhaams" (the way we do prayers, the way we look, what we wear, what we eat) associated with any religion? how does that help? why do we do that?

Give a little thought.......Who makes sure that the birds and the animals get 'Roti, Kapda and Makaan', and, what tells them to do things in life 'correctly' ?

Human beings are all fallible, ever prone to error and mistake, so never can they become perfect, ever....what or even why does it matter than, that they should achieve 'correctly' ?

but we have been given brains to think..to reason things out...

dont get me wrong..i do believe in God..and i know that He has created us...

God helps those who help themselves...and that is what is required...dont just sit and hope that God will give you everything...and when you dont get it, blame it on Him..or just say that He did not want me to have it...

go and do things...but do it correctly...dont steal, dont cheat, dont hurt people...thats what i meant by doing correctly...

Alright....let's give you just a little bit more then! You says,


God helps those who help themselves...and that is what is required...dont just sit and hope that God will give you everything...and when you dont get it, blame it on Him..or just say that He did not want me to have it...go and do things...but do it correctly...dont steal, dont cheat, dont hurt people...thats what i meant by doing correctly...


So, you've helped yourself and because you helped yourself, God helped you too...you didnt just sit there and expect everything to fall into your plate, you went out there and made yourself by doing it 'correctly'.

You got nice car, plane, motorbikes, nice homes everywhere, nice things in your house, loads of money in the bank, business looks good too, jewelry, tv, video, sky, computers, beautiful furnishings, servants who run up to your every whim, parties, people 'look up to you' now that you're a 'big man' loaded with status, the girls just suck up to you wherever you go, nice holidays and the list goes on.....henna !!

Where will you take all this, when you are dead ? You came into this World empty handed and you left empty handed, everything you called yours, which you made 'correctly' is now gone to others, and the moral of story is......????

moral of the story is that "dont just sit under a tree and pray"...go and do something....make life worthwhile to live..for yourself, your family and everyone around you in this world....this is what God expects you to do...and if you do it right, you will be a rich man...daulat, shaan, shaukat, izzat...you will have all that...live comfortably, see places, meet people...

but do not use unfair means to gain all this...and while you have all this, please share it with others, the less fortunate ones..(the ones sitting under the tree included)...

don't go killing each other in the name of God...instead, keep yourself productively engaged, contribute in improving the quality of life in this world...

and do it 'correctly'

You missed the point totally..........or you deliberately ignored it !!!


Where will you take all this, when you are dead ? You came into this World empty handed and you left empty handed, everything you called yours, which you made 'correctly' is now gone to others. See it now or not....?

actually you are right..very difficult to understand as to what you are propagating. Can you please elucidate.

Now, that you have stopped to think, then let's make one thing clear from this point forward. Whatever I write for you (or another) to read (not literally every word or sentence, but the jist of it) is derived from teachings given to the likes of you and me by people who came here to Earth, with an understanding or knowledge beyond Ours !!!

So, I'm no different from the rest of the crowd in wanting the comforts of life, education, business, employment, enjoying myself and the rest, but by reading and understanding 'opinions' offered by people who are called 'saints, phrophets, gurus' brings one's 'their understanding'....not mine !!!

Enough Respect & Love, to Them who have done this for Us....!!


very difficult to understand as to what you are propagating


I therefore 'propagate' not my opinions, but the 'opinions' of those who have an 'understanding and knowledge' beyond Ours.....written in my words of course. Lets continue then....you said, you want a little more elucidation then !!!


Post By You 'Reincarnation'
http://www.bollywoodheaven.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1038

Read Reply By Our Very Own 'Desibeauty':
http://www.bollywoodheaven.com/forums/showthread.php?t=475&page=2&pp=10

Now, that you have stopped to think, then let's make one thing clear from this point forward. Whatever I write for you (or another) to read (not literally every word or sentence, but the jist of it) is derived from teachings given to the likes of you and me by people who came here to Earth, with an understanding or knowledge beyond Ours !!!

So, I'm no different from the rest of the crowd in wanting the comforts of life, education, business, employment, enjoying myself and the rest, but by reading and understanding 'opinions' offered by people who are called 'saints, phrophets, gurus' brings one's 'their understanding'....not mine !!!

Enough Respect & Love, to Them who have done this for Us....!!



I therefore 'propagate' not my opinions, but the 'opinions' of those who have an 'understanding and knowledge' beyond Ours.....written in my words of course. Lets continue then....you said, you want a little more elucidation then !!!
Oh someone stopped thinking? Really? Hmmmm.... ok.. not sure what makes people jump to such conclusions, however, since this is a distraction tactics, I better just ignore it and not stoop myself to that level.

Oh I do believe in God. What I dont believe in is the "dhongees".

Having being born as humans, we should definitely lead a "normal balanced" life. Study, play, go to movies, date, get a job, raise a family, earn decent living, eat samosas, etc. etc. But don't stop there. Take time out to know God and whatever you do, do it correctly. I have started sounding like ghisa pita record now.

So what's your point now?

Thrown it away again then.....when one stops to think, it means they deliberate at a given point. The mind thinks loadz of things without stopping, but when it's pushed to think and deliberate over a point, then it really works for you.


In Sikhism, Bhuddism, Hinduism and others, everything that you do in the 'run' of human life, puts you through unending birth and death through reincanation. If you feel that's what you want then, I'm wasting my time telling you any different. Go back to your life and live it's course till your passing. But if you feel that' life has to be more than that, then you will understand (not necessarity beleive it) what I wrote in the 'original post' here about what my religion, Sikhism says on the matter as an overview.


As people have different Religions, and maybe yours is not the same as mine, it may conflict, but this post was made to make people aware of life should be really about, as Sikhism declares. And, I'm not asking anyone to convert to mine or otherwise.....just incase you throw that at me !!!

Follow your Religion, as the number one factor in life and make that not the second, third, fourth or last. Then one truly earns the profit of living life, for what it was made.

So, if you want to tell me about your Religion the same way, then feel free to make a post about it and I will take a read for sure. To close, I'll leave you with something that I hope will make you really 'think'......


If you came into the World with nothing, spent all of seventy, eighty, ninety or more years collecting and making everything you possess in life, only to leave it all behind at your passing, then why would one 'waste' that Time doing that? Billions of people will say that's not a 'waste' you idiot, and they make the World go round and round, as it is today, through birth, death and reincarnation. Rare are they, who truly consider It a 'total waste' and they then pursue a course in life, which unravels this exquiste mystery.


You are not one of them.............!!! :)

Doesn't religion teach tolerance, understanding, appreciation of other's point of view?

Fanatic - a person marked or motivated by an extreme, unreasoning enthusiasm, as for a cause - want things to happen their way. Everything else appears wrong to them.

And then if a different point of view is presented, fanatics go beserk.

Truth always hurts....long life mate !!! :)

I am sorry..i did not mean to upset you...thanks for the wishes...i am 17...so yeah...hopefully i will get to live a few more years...

what do you do? and since when are you in the uk?

I'm 46, which should now make you understand why it's not wise to pick a 'discussion' with someone old enough be your 'dad' ! :)

What do you do?
Self employed, setup networks & websites for home/schools/businesses, build & repair PC's, tuition for children who cant afford it and the rest of time is devoted to 'religious study'.

How long been in the UK
Came to England very young, after my parents lost their property and belongings to the Tanzanians (the Britsh gave them independance, it was called Tanganyika then). Those days were like 'aparthied', but very incidious, not open like S Africa, still the same today despite all the 'community' bullshit they feed Us on the 'waves' !!

So, I've already guessed you are Muslim, but whose the 'real person' behind the 'HeroNumberOne'....what are your career/love aspirations then, and dont try to do a 'dhongee' on me now, will you !! :)

Ji, you are bilkul wrong he is not Muslim...he's Hindu. And on more thing, ages put on years does not mean it necessairly brings wisdom. You earn respect by your actions ji, not by your age. So may you be 46 or 18, it doesn't mean you hold more "knowledge" than Andy or me. One more thing ji, if at all possible, don't come out "strong" in your words, please be considerate of others, and do think before you type down the words.

Ji, you are bilkul wrong he is not Muslim...he's Hindu. And on more thing, ages put on years does not mean it necessairly brings wisdom. You earn respect by your actions ji, not by your age. So may you be 46 or 18, it doesn't mean you hold more "knowledge" than Andy or me. One more thing ji, if at all possible, don't come out "strong" in your words, please be considerate of others, and do think before you type down the words.


Ji....let him say that himself, you are not him are you ? Like I said...I just 'guessed he was Muslim'.

& I didnt ask for your's or anyone's else respect, and neither did I ever say, I hold more 'knowledge' than you him or anyone else for that matter.

My actions you have not seen at all...only my writing you have, and I write what I write, the way I write it...if you dont like it, sorry I cant help that.....your choice to read my posts or not.

Simran...i think most of the people on this forum are under 25 na?

Mr. BizzyBoy - how does it matter what my religion is. One should respect all religions na ji.

And uncle ji...simran is more than a friend to me...in fact much more...we have long term plans..please show some respect yaar...

Of course, it doesnt matter what your Religion is, but I'm entitled to ask you what is yours, as you know mine....dont have to tell me if you dont want though, at least then I know where I stand on that point at least. And, I havent shown any disrespect to any 'religion' here, have I ?

And, if you say he's your friend...ok, at least you have confirmed that for me now, but I hadnt 'conversed' with him ever before and I didnt know he was your friend either. So he could have shown a little ettiquette first himself, wouldnt have hurt him would it !!

Hope your plans go well together......!

Of course, it doesnt matter what your Religion is, but I'm entitled to ask you what is yours, as you know mine....dont have to tell me if you dont want though, at least then I know where I stand on that point at least. And, I havent shown any disrespect to any 'religion' here, have I ?

And, if you say he's your friend...ok, at least you have confirmed that for me now, but I hadnt 'conversed' with him ever before and I didnt know he was your friend either. So he could have shown a little ettiquette first himself, wouldnt have hurt him would it !!

Hope your plans go well together......!
I am assuming that this was addressed to me and not to Simran. Uncle ji, Simran is a "she" and not a "he". Mujhe "waisa" samjha aapne that i will have plans with a "he"?

My religion is my "work", my "duties", my "responsibilities".

And thanks a lot for your good wishes.

Oh did you ask about my plans? OK, I am going to study engineering and then medicine.

Yes, the reply was for you 'Hero'....well, there you go, if your friend had 'controlled their emotions' a little, maybe then this simple misunderstanding wouldnt have occured.
Ok, 'Simran' in your case is a she...well I have a friend with the same name and that person is 'he'...I guess it goes both ways then !!

If 'your religion' which you stated above, makes you happy, then who am I or anyone else to tell you different. Live life, learn from it and then for sure, one day in the distant future you will been given the opportunity to consider 'your choices and actions' in life, by none other, than yourself'.

Namaste to you & your friend.

Simran a guy's name? Oh ok. I guess it is a free world.

But i am hurt that you thought ki i will marry a guy...haawwww... chi chi...

I dont want to be disresptful to anyone..we are all God's children...but what she (my Simran) said was correct. I agree with her. She is a very intelligent and an extremely knowledgeable kid.

Lets stop slashing out at each other now and we all be friends. We are all mature and grown up people.

Satya Sri Akaal to you too, sir ji !

BTW - my part-time job is to fix people's computers. I also volunteer at a local Assisted Living and also in a Hospital. I am a good kid na? Doing "correct" things.

Here's a website that shows you that some 'guys' also can have the name 'Simran:
http://www.indianfootball.com/pio.html

Well, you got your backup and support from your friend, and of course you are going to take her side too, that's what 'friends' are for....I stand alone ! And, I agree that 'we' should try to get along with other, but throwing all those cream pies at each other didnt do any harm, did it ? When two males meet in the playing field, naturally they have to 'fight' it out and draw lines to thier boundries....such is life !!

So, here's your chance to comment on my write about your mate's character...is she or isnt she?


While the name Simran creates the urge to be creative and original, it does cause procrastination, lack of confidence, and the inability to realize one's goals and ambitions. This name, when combined with the last name, can frustrate happiness, contentment, and success. It also gives you the ability to be creative along practical lines of endeavour. Your ideas can be very original and inventive. You enjoy being with people in a social environment. Your personal appearance is important to you, for you desire to make a good impression on others. Your pleasant manner attracts people to you with their problems and you are capable of offering practical advice, though you may not follow such advice yourself. This name causes you to be somewhat too concerned with the personalities, problems, and activities of other people.




I am a good kid na? Doing "correct" things.


Good or bad, left or right, black or white, up or down, high or low, rich or poor, healthy or diseased, laugh or cry, chor yah supahi, dosti yah dushmani, jaan yah pehchan, etcetra, etcetra, etcetra....the two sides of the same coin. To find yourself, lose the coin !! :)

Hey...i asked dad as to what religion are we...or what should i become...and he said

Tu Hindu banega na Musalmaan banega
Insaan ki aulaad hai insaan banega

and then my mom said:
Achha hai abhi tak tera kuchh naam nahin hai
Tujhko kisi mazhab se koi kaam nahin hai
Jis ilm ne insaan ko takseem kiya hai
Us ilm ka tujhpe koi ilzaam nahin hai

No disrespect, but you will do what you want to do, regardless of what your parents dictate or say, for each born here on planet Earth is responsible for their own choices and actions, and each separetely, therefore accountable to The Lord for them.


My religion is my "work", my "duties", my "responsibilities".

i will tell my dad..

they thanks for the info
so nice of u

what info?

the main page yaar

oh woh ! let me read it again...

Good job my friend.. !!!
I am proud to be half Sikh.

Hi!....thankx for the compliment, just curious...what is your other half (you said you are half Sikh), if you dont mind me asking?

Sikhdni?

Nope I don't
I am half Hindu :)

Ohhh thanks.....how you manage to live a life of 'divided loyalities', is it a problem, will you decide to fall to one side in the future or does it suit to 'sit on fence' for now ?

Dont have to tell, if you dont want to....this is after all a 'little' personal!

There is One God !!! All loyalty is to HIM.

Missed the point Hero...again! When one has parents of two 'faiths' eventually one is led to choose one to follow in life, by peer pressure. You cant go to the Temple/Gurdwara/Masjid all at the same time can you !!!

Hmm what are we dicussing here? That theres only one god?

Sir ji...not at the same time....very true ji...but definitely on the same day! Hai na ji?

Danu ji - we are discussing about our "divided loyalties" between Gods. I don't agree with that statement. There is only one God and all loyalties are towards HIM. I can choose to pray to HIM in Masjid or Gurudwara or Church or Synagogue or Temple or at home. The prayer will be the same.

The prayer is not the same, the ways are different, but the meaning behind the prayers could be the same. Like there different forms of Muslims, Shia, Sunni, Ismali. All these different group have different belief and different ways of doing prayer. How is it the same then?

Salaam Danu (didnt know that was your name), kase aap, khush tabiath !!

Right back to board: Hero, you really need to think before committing yourself to paper. The 'divided loyalities' arise because it's the parents who are of different religions, not the children. The children want to please both, but the parents are individuals, with individual beliefs, how can the child choose which to follow. If you try to follow both, then you will cause a problem to yourself in your beleif.....example:

Hindu dad, Muslim mum, one religion beleives in reincarnation one does not. So, you are sitting at home thinking to yourself what kind of a 'hypocritical, two faced God you beleive in', when each says 'different'. Dont write back and tell me that when you go to a temple, you will beleive in reincarantion & when you go to a masjid you will not !!!

Taking it to other extreme, if there's only One God, why did he make all these different religions for these different people ? Why didnt This One God just make the, One Religion ?


Without knowing the answers to that, as it stands, That One God DID NOT MAKE JUST THE ONE RELIGION OR JUST THE ONE RACE. The One God made different people for different religions, that be the truth.


So, mixing two people of two different religions, WILL LEAD TO DIVIDED LOYALTIES, to the child of such a union. & Danu is also right, in her ascertion that the modes of prayer are different in different religions and different people.

Its okie Bizzy, ab tow patah chal gaya na. Ji mein theek thak hoon, aap?

Yeah you have a point there in your second paragraph. One religon beliefs in reincarnation while the other does not. That would make it into a 2 faced God.

Kuddah Meharbaan....ji, theek hu....kaam meh bohat bizzy hu!

The kids are soon on holidays and businesses in 'summer' here in the UK do good trade, so my contracts are loaded. Better get what I can 'said the squirrel', for in the winter months all the 'nuts I hoard' will get me through !!

Aacha, abhi time zaara bhot late hogeya, phir bhaat karunga! Khuda Afis Danu Ji! :)

Aap be kaam mein bizzy, mein be ji.

Trade is always good in summer pretty much every where. Thats good thats your busy, time goes by fast.

Allah hafiz ji

The prayer is not the same, the ways are different, but the meaning behind the prayers could be the same. Like there different forms of Muslims, Shia, Sunni, Ismali. All these different group have different belief and different ways of doing prayer. How is it the same then?
I was talking about the purpose...the reasons...and not the script and text. God created this world, right? God made us, right...regardless of our religion and belief, aren't we all the same? There is one Supreme Power - God. My loyalty is towards him. And just because I am Hindu does not mean that I dont believe that Allah is also the name of God and I cannot pray to him.

And Mr. BizzyBoy...please stop being arrogant and ignorant...we are here to express ourselves, share our opinions and learn from each other...please don't get personal..that is not a good approach. i dont want to be rude with anyone.

Arrogance (Ar"ro*gance)
The act or habit of arrogating, or making undue claims in an overbearing manner; that species of pride which consists in exorbitant claims of rank, dignity, estimation, or power, or which exalts the worth or importance of the person to an undue degree; proud contempt of others; lordliness; haughtiness; self-assumption; presumption.

Ig·no·rance (ĭg'nər-əns)
The condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uninformed.


When one is full of pride, ego, arrogance, ignorance and are put into a 'corner', then their only defence is to claim the other the same, as they are. Arrogant I am not, for you have neither seen me, know me, worked with me or anything for that matter and if I was ignorant for true, then you wouldnt be standing in a corner pointing fingers or throwing threats at me, but in your humiltiy & wisdom, you would prove me wrong, for what I write..!!


And, lastly 'personal' I certainly havent been:

Never cited you, your family or your friends in the post, so keep your anger, hate or the vivid imaginations of your mind to yourself please. Like I said, think before you post.....


& If we are all the same like you suggest, then you have just shoot yourself, cos you are the same as me !!! Who be arrogant, ignorant and personal now....!!!

Arrogance (Ar"ro*gance)
The act or habit of arrogating, or making undue claims in an overbearing manner; that species of pride which consists in exorbitant claims of rank, dignity, estimation, or power, or which exalts the worth or importance of the person to an undue degree; proud contempt of others; lordliness; haughtiness; self-assumption; presumption.

Ig·no·rance (ĭg'nər-əns)
The condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uninformed.



And, lastly 'personal' I certainly havent been:


& If we are all the same like you suggest, then you have just shoot yourself, cos you are the same as me !!! Who be arrogant, ignorant and personal now....!!!
relax..dont get hyper now

cant...that's why I'm called Bizzy! Unlike 'HeroNumberOne' which be full of pride, ego and arrogance.

whatever

whenever

However!